Traws Cymru Expansion

[cx04axy]

RE: Traws Cymru Expansion
With Lloyds and K & P coaches getting new vechiles for T2 and T10. What will happen to there existing vechiles ?

[MTL0201]

RE: Traws Cymru Expansion

(12/07/2025 17:57)knutstransport Wrote:  Used the T8 today. Noticed the 64 reg TransCymru branded Solo I got in one direction was a standard Solo SR interior. The 21 reg M & H Coaches branded one had seatbelts fitted and had very rapid acceleration for a Solo.

Drivers don't seem to take notice of most of the timings points. It leaves Chester and Corwen on time and then the other stops are just whenever it gets there, even if that's 5-10 minutes ahead of schedule.

I've been on the T8 a couple of times, Solo's & the StreeLite are order of the day because of a bridge on the route approaching Llanfair Dyffryn Clwyd, that has a 18t weight limit, & has a tight bend at one end of the bridge as well, that anything longer would get wedged in.

Mind you Solo's & StreetLites are the only buses M&H have anyway.

[knutstransport]

RE: Traws Cymru Expansion

(06/06/2026 05:07)MTL0201 Wrote:  I've been on the T8 a couple of times, Solo's & the StreeLite are order of the day because of a bridge on the route approaching Llanfair Dyffryn Clwyd, that has a 18t weight limit, & has a tight bend at one end of the bridge as well, that anything longer would get wedged in.

Mind you Solo's & StreetLites are the only buses M&H have anyway.

The point I was getting at (last year when I posted that) is it's another example of a bog standard interior on a bus with a Traws Cymru livery, when the aim of Traws Cymru was supposed to be premium quality. I didn't make any reference to the buses being too small.

The Cheshire Cat branded Enviro 200 MMCs that Warrington's Own Buses used to have are the exactly the same vehicle type as the ex-Cardiff Enviro 200 MMCs at D&G Bus. One type is well suited for longer journeys, the other is best suited to short hops from one side of town, to the other.

[iMarkeh]

RE: Traws Cymru Expansion

(06/06/2026 05:07)MTL0201 Wrote:  I've been on the T8 a couple of times, Solo's & the StreeLite are order of the day because of a bridge on the route approaching Llanfair Dyffryn Clwyd, that has a 18t weight limit, & has a tight bend at one end of the bridge as well, that anything longer would get wedged in.

Mind you Solo's & StreetLites are the only buses M&H have anyway.

It's getting Evoras from September.



The T8 has long been a poor mans TrawsCymru, especially with the shambolic way that M&H run it. Hopefully the new winner operates the service better than M&H have done so far.

[Metroline1511]

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(09/06/2026 11:41)iMarkeh Wrote:  It's getting Evoras from September.


The T8 has long been a poor mans TrawsCymru, especially with the shambolic way that M&H run it. Hopefully the new winner operates the service better than M&H have done so far.

Does the next tender start in September, with the Evoras if delivered by then?

[iMarkeh]

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(13/06/2026 06:13)Metroline1511 Wrote:  Does the next tender start in September, with the Evoras if delivered by then?

That's the planned start date. The tender has now closed pending being awarded.

If it comes out as the 4 bus option (there were a few timetable options), TFW has said that it will be 3x 2024 Evoras and 1x 2026 Evora. I presume the 3 old Evoras will be ex Lloyds ones with them getting deckers now but not confirmed.

[chesterbuses21256]

RE: Traws Cymru Expansion

(Yesterday 16:43)iMarkeh Wrote:  That's the planned start date. The tender has now closed pending being awarded.

If it comes out as the 4 bus option (there were a few timetable options), TFW has said that it will be 3x 2024 Evoras and 1x 2026 Evora. I presume the 3 old Evoras will be ex Lloyds ones with them getting deckers now but not confirmed.

Hopefully M&H don’t win the T8 again,