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RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - Aaron's Transport Pictures - 29/12/2022 22:11
New T8 starting on the 23rd January. Linking Corwen, Ruthin, Mold and Chester. Will be operated by M&H Coaches of Trefnant. Existing vehicles from the 1/X1/2 and 55 will be used alongside a couple of extras.
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - KX03 KYY - 30/12/2022 02:54
(29/12/2022 22:11)Aarons Transport Pictures Wrote: New T8 starting on the 23rd January. Linking Corwen, Ruthin, Mold and Chester. Will be operated by M&H Coaches of Trefnant. Existing vehicles from the 1/X1/2 and 55 will be used alongside a couple of extras.
Are these getting kitted out as TrawsCymru vehicles or staying as standard M&H livery?
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - DLG817 - 30/12/2022 12:08
(30/12/2022 02:54)CX06 BHE Wrote: Are these getting kitted out as TrawsCymru vehicles or staying as standard M&H livery?
They are to receive the new 'red' variation of the TrawsCymru livery. For further details see my blog at RonsBusesandCaoches.com
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - knutstransport - 31/12/2022 11:56
I thought the Traws Cymru brand was supposed to include high quality interiors, similar to Arriva Sapphire, rather than just branded Solos.
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - iMarkeh - 01/01/2023 23:23
(31/12/2022 11:56)knutstransport Wrote: I thought the Traws Cymru brand was supposed to include high quality interiors, similar to Arriva Sapphire, rather than just branded Solos.TrawsCymru aims and the reality of the current network couldn't be more different.
Lloyds and Tanat Valley often run a bit of everything on their TC routes. Richard Bros I believe
First T1 - Traws livery, normal First interior. Almost always a TrawsCymru liveried bus.
Lloyds T2/T3/T12 - Mix of buses in all liveries. Buses in Traws livery tend to have Traws interior though
Stagecoach T4/T14 - With the reduction in the frequency, it's now more Generally the MCV Evoras in Traws livery with TC superior interior. Still generally 1 or 2 bus duties per day where a normal Stagecoach bus runs.
Richard Bros T5/T11 - Complete mix bag. Some normal buses, some in Traws livery but normal interior. sometimes the Metrocities with Traws livery and Traws basic interior.
Adventure T6 - Generally buses in Traws livery with Traws basic interior. Generally early morning and evening trips are ran by buses not in Traws livery.
K&P/Llew Jones T10 - Normally a Traws Cymru bus with Traws Superior spec.
Lloyds/Tanat T12 - Statistically much more likely to have a standard liveried bus than a TrawsCymru one.
Llew Jones T19 - T19 is a mix of everything because they throw you off buses in Llanwrst and swap everything over randomly. I'd say more often a Llew Jones bus than a Traws one but that includes the posher Roseroso Connect thing which is quite nice.
Overall, only 2 routes really have the higher spec Traws Cymru and that is the T4 and T10. To find a bus in TrawsCymru livery though, I would say network wide, it's around 50% chance of it being a TrawsCymru liveried bus.
To clarify what I mean by Traws basic and traws superior livery. Traws basic I mean the normal seats but they are in the TrawsCymru colour with some branding inside. the Traws Superior livery has the high backed, posher seats I think they are Lazzerini Transito. Same ones that Stagecoach got for the new Gold spec on the 471/472
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - Valandil - 03/01/2023 11:45
Really hope the T8 is timed so you can make connections with the T10.
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - MTL0201 - 10/01/2023 22:26
T8 timetable has been published, & yes every other hour it connects with the T3 & T10 in Corwen
T8 timetable
http://www.mandhcoaches.co.uk/timetables/T8%20Timetable%20FB.jpeg
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - knutstransport - 21/09/2023 13:33
Seems the Metrocities, previously used on the T12, are being sold by Transport for Wales: https://the-bus-shop.co.uk/buses-coaches-for-rental/used-buses/
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - knutstransport - 12/07/2025 17:57
Used the T8 today. Noticed the 64 reg TransCymru branded Solo I got in one direction was a standard Solo SR interior. The 21 reg M & H Coaches branded one had seatbelts fitted and had very rapid acceleration for a Solo.
Drivers don't seem to take notice of most of the timings points. It leaves Chester and Corwen on time and then the other stops are just whenever it gets there, even if that's 5-10 minutes ahead of schedule.
RE: Traws Cymru Expansion - iMarkeh - 14/07/2025 18:41
(12/07/2025 17:57)knutstransport Wrote: Used the T8 today. Noticed the 64 reg TransCymru branded Solo I got in one direction was a standard Solo SR interior. The 21 reg M & H Coaches branded one had seatbelts fitted and had very rapid acceleration for a Solo.
Drivers don't seem to take notice of most of the timings points. It leaves Chester and Corwen on time and then the other stops are just whenever it gets there, even if that's 5-10 minutes ahead of schedule.
The second paragraph doesn't surprise me at all. The T8 is the poor mans TrawsCymru. Low spec vehicles, drivers do what they want, and M&H make it all up as they go along, claiming stops are too dangerous so they can avoid stopping.