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RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising - MTL0201 - 01/03/2026 08:55
I'll say it on this forum as well, if there's one thing that needs to be revised it's those awkward 35-40 minute ecc, frequencies, routes like the 34/34A/80/80A/409 & so on, they are hard to remember without looking at the timetable, each route really should be every 30 minutes, with 34/34A/80/80A combined to every 15 minutes.
The 34 used to be every 20 minutes [combined to every 10 minutes with the 34A] before covid, it's been every 40 minutes since 2022 & you have to memorize the timetable particularly if you need to travel in the peaks.
RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising - Jack - 01/03/2026 12:07
(28/02/2026 23:33)Raawwwrrr! Wrote: Not necessarily as Birkenhead isn’t being electrified in its current form.
Interestingly they also carry a different version of the Metro livery with more yellow towards the rear
Do we know how many diesels there'll be yet? Could be for both Birkenhead and St Helens..
RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising - gka472l - 01/03/2026 12:32
(01/03/2026 12:07)Jack Wrote: Do we know how many diesels there'll be yet? Could be for both Birkenhead and St Helens..
Not yet, but if Birkenhead & St Helens are getting completely new fleets, it's going to be a fait bit over 200......although maybe Stagecoach may move some stuff in from Gillmoss to St Helens once the electrics enter service???
RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising - Jack - 01/03/2026 12:45
I'd have thought maybe new deckers for the 10 and 10A at least and then the rest of the fleet at St Helens a mixture of new and Stagecoach cast offs similar to what happened in Manchester.
RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising - Y458 KNF - 01/03/2026 13:36
(01/03/2026 12:45)Jack Wrote: I'd have thought maybe new deckers for the 10 and 10A at least and then the rest of the fleet at St Helens a mixture of new and Stagecoach cast offs similar to what happened in Manchester.
I would guess Stagecoach will send in some of there own vehicles on loan possibly some Arriva vehicles as well until enough new vehicles have been delivered I don’t see Arriva selling any off apart from the Metro liveried MMCs.
RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising - Route102 - 01/03/2026 21:29
(01/03/2026 13:36)Y458 KNF Wrote: I would guess Stagecoach will send in some of there own vehicles on loan possibly some Arriva vehicles as well until enough new vehicles have been delivered I don’t see Arriva selling any off apart from the Metro liveried MMCs.
None of the Metro MMCs are being sold. The 16 at Laird Street are planned to go to Runcorn.
RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising - Gateacre - 02/03/2026 07:14
Does anyone know when we can expect the consultation on the Liverpool, Knowsley and Sefton routes?
RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising - Tim33160 - 02/03/2026 07:51
(02/03/2026 07:14)Gateacre Wrote: Does anyone know when we can expect the consultation on the Liverpool, Knowsley and Sefton routes?
Don't think there is a consultation planned
The draft list of services was published:
http://www.dartslf.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1769&pid=161211#pid161211
RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising - KX03 KYY - 02/03/2026 09:14
Has a confirmed list for Wirral and St Helens routes been published yet or still not finalised?
Also when do the Liverpool depots get announced?
RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising - Gateacre - 02/03/2026 10:16
I have seen the listing you referred to TIM33160.
Not very accurate with 81A showing Liverpool City Centre to the Airport. Shows the same on the Sefton list. Anyone with a little knowledge of the network would know the 81A serves Bootle New Strand to the airport via Queens Drive, Woolton and Hunts Cross.